Comments on: A critic view on JSF Framework http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/ Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:04:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Peter http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-771 Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:55:21 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-771 I had bad experiences with JSF too. But this might be because I was using myfaces (+tomahawk + trinidad) which was clunky and very buggy!

It seems to me sun is/was pushing JSF to sell there GUI creators for JSF ;-)

So my personal suggestions are:

either you go the ‘new’ JSF line with JBoss(richfaces)/faclets/whatever

or you try better/real component based frameworks like wicket or vaadin.

Wicket has only Java + Html and Vaadin has only Java has its programming language. So, no new proprietary xml tags (JSF tags), no Javascript or whatever and full crossbrowser support.

]]> By: Venkat http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-601 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:50:55 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-601 I haven’t worked nor reviewed Stripes. My guess is it won’t be as bad as JSF.

Lately I started liking component based Wicket framework as I have to write lot of Java code and less HTML/JavaScript code.

]]> By: Agus http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-598 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:24:59 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-598 Hi Venkat,

And what do you think of Stripes?

Regards,
Agus

]]> By: Pavel S http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-579 Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:48:11 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-579 What are you using now if not JSF? Did you find something that works better?

]]> By: hardtobeagod http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-512 Fri, 08 May 2009 19:04:21 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-512 Guys,

Check out Richfaces and see what you can do with JSF with ease.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richfaces

– hardtobeagod

]]> By: Venkat http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-466 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:36:17 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-466 I am not using JSF any more. However with JSF2.0 spec nothing much changed. In my view JSF don’t have any future, Sun will bet on JavaFX.

]]> By: Uday http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-465 Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:51:40 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-465 Venkat, I see this article was published in April 2008. What do we know now after 1 year in April 2009? Is JSF becoming viable option or still have issues? Have they addressed any of concerns you have mentioned?

We are in process of deciding whether to use JSF or plain MVC model. Any advise will be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Uday

]]> By: chand http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-263 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:42:49 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-263 just posting once again, it seems the site did not like angle brackets.

I am not an expert in JSF. I did my own version of MVC framework which is better in someways than struts and it definitely lacks certain things,
actionform for example. I was looking around for something better before I started a new project. JSF caught my attention.
I found somethings interesting but then after going through few articles and tutorials I found that there are some limitations and its
highly possible that it could be because of my lack of knowledge. 1) All the examples I found had (to-view-id) destination as a page.
I am not sure if we can redirect to a java class. 2) To expect all the processing can be done in a bean class seems naive especially
when the logic is complex and data/rules must be shared across multiple beans.
However, unlike struts, JSF’s navigation seems to be 100% controlled through an xml file. Although I don’t know if (from-view-id) is required.
If so, then that seems an unecassary thing. It would make much more sense to start with a command rather than page as the initiation process.
But like struts, by making navigation file part of war file it has the limitation of requiring a new deployment if navigation needs
to be changed. It would be so cool to load this navigation from a DB.

I tend to agree with Venkat on the conclusion.

]]> By: Pavel Savara http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-89 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:17:18 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-89 Well yo being very wrong here. Of course you can have normal link in jsf h:outputLing is just fine, And yes you can map its values to bean either reading from the request parameter or on faces-config like name valuen pair when defining bean using el.
nameOfBeandparam
#{nameOfRequestParam}
I am not sure about a syntax.
You can beans inside PhaseListener from FacesContect you can even use EL and get them by name.

]]> By: vpetreski http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-62 Fri, 16 May 2008 07:03:26 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-62 http://www.comesolvego.com/2008/05/03/game-over-java-server-faces/

]]> By: Venkat Sadasivam http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-61 Fri, 09 May 2008 12:45:33 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-61 I can use outputLink but I cannot pass any parameters to my bean. I have manually handle request parameters.

]]> By: Jonathan http://webmoli.com/2008/04/28/a-critic-view-on-jsf-framework/#comment-60 Thu, 08 May 2008 22:11:59 +0000 http://venkatsadasivam.wordpress.com/?p=55#comment-60 Good points, but one question:

“Every button or link clicked results in a form post. That’s just wrong – why can’t I have true links like the web is supposed to?”

Does the outputLink tag not provide what you’re looking for here?

- Jonathan

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